Help ID'ing

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borntodeal
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Help ID'ing

Postby borntodeal » Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:44 pm

I believe this is Scottish, could you help me ID the three marks and date this and what is the handled bowl called?ImageImageImage

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby oel » Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:54 pm

Hi, welcome to the forum.

Believe it to be called a silver quaich (Scottish whiskey tasting bowl)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaich

Oel.

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby borntodeal » Fri Dec 30, 2016 4:59 pm

THANK YOU so much! That helps a lot. Can you determine the age and provenance from my mark photo?

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby oel » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:10 pm

No, I am sorry but others will just wait & see.

Best,

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby borntodeal » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:16 pm

Thank you! Much appreciated.

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby paulh » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:27 pm

A quaich has two handles to enable it to be passed from one person to another. This is more likely to be a wine taster.

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby oel » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:51 pm

Yes, you are right Paul; copy of an antique wine-taster for oenology with snake handle.


Best,

Peter

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby borntodeal » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:14 pm

Hello Peter, thank you for sharing your insights. What made it clear that this is a copy of an antique?

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby AG2012 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:57 am

Hi,
Tastevins (wine tasters) with the snake-shaped handle originated in Burgundy, but can be found elsewhere (Auvergne, Berry and Paris) They were widely reproduced throughout Europe and elsewhere well into 20th century, even today.
I agree with Peter`s opinion it`s a copy of 18th century French tastevin and it bears pseudo marks.
(The marks are not consistent with any genuine old marks used in Europe, IMHO)
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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby oel » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:37 am

Hi,
Yes, and not to mention the lack of silver patina and scratches.

Patina is a rich, warm color which forms over time as a result of use and handling. Flatware straight from the factory has a "factory shine" whether it's sterling silver, silverplate or stainless steel. After only minimal use, you will begin to notice fine surface scratches. It is impossible to avoid but this is nothing to worry about; it's part of the patination process. Over time, these fine scratches will blend together to form a soft finish.


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Peter

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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby borntodeal » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:43 pm

This has been very educational. Any thoughts on where this was made, the actual age. admin edit , read our forum rules
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Re: Help ID'ing

Postby dognose » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:04 am

Hi,

See: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41910 for a possible answer as to the maker of this piece.

Trev.


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