Heafty Curb Chain Necklace.

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TheHelleri
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Heafty Curb Chain Necklace.

Postby TheHelleri » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:25 am

I received this a few years ago as a gift from my mother. There is no provenance attached to it. Given it has a lobster claw, spring loaded clasp (and that it appears to be original to the piece) I doubt it could be anymore than 40 years old.

In searching the website and forums I couldn't ascertain anything all that useful. I have seen in conducting those searches examples of Scottish and Swedish marks where letters are contained within the lobes of a trefoil. However there is also wheel like mark. Perhaps a cartwheel? Which would make me think it could be American.

The BB mark confuses me as I am unsure about the score between the letters. An alternative to a period? The letters, I, L, or the number 1? the high placement between the B's makes it seem more likely to be a character than initialing punctuation. Given the 3rd letter in the Trefoil i think it's most likely an L (though it's very faded and I may just be making characters out of shadows).

To be clear I would like to know where and thereabouts of when it was made if at all possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and attention.

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Note: These are 1024x1024 .png images with the alpha channel removed (the minimum resolution I can have them scaled and cropped to without loosing detail). If they are too large my apologies. But preemptively in my defense "no larger than 7 inches or 18cm. in width." as given by the "Requirements *** READ BEFORE POSTING *** Important" topic is not a unit of measurement anyone can actually go by as images will appear at different scales depending on the individual user's display. A max resolution or Kb/Mb file size limit would be more workable/comprehensible. Aside from that as a possible exception I do feel I've conformed to the posting rules to the best of my understanding and ability.

AG2012
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Re: Heafty Curb Chain Necklace.

Postby AG2012 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:27 am

Hi,
The mark with the scale is international convention mark, used since 1972.
See here (The Goldsmiths` Company).
https://www.assayofficelondon.co.uk/hal ... egal-marks

The mark on the right looks like Sheffield rose.
Cannot identify sponsor`s mark on the left.20th century British makers (sponsors) are still not well documented.
I over B B like yours was recorded in both London and Sheffield at the time (late 20th century).

Regards

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Re: Heafty Curb Chain Necklace.

Postby dognose » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:39 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

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Just to add the sponsors mark is that of International Bullion & Metal Brokers. There really are an international company and your chain could have been sourced from anywhere around the globe, however, the largest, by far I believe, producers of chain in the world are the Italians.

Trev.

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Re: Heafty Curb Chain Necklace.

Postby TheHelleri » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:02 am

I am impressed at the speed of the responses (thank you). In regards to the possibility of the wheel being a Sheffield rose. The image detail is unfortunately more poor than I'd like. I had to put my cell phone camera (Zeiss pure view 41 mega pixel) to one of the eye pieces of my Zeiss 1896 Greenough-type Stereo Microscope at 65x magnification in order to get those pictures. To the eye (under the microscope) it appears to be a solid ring with a ring of dots contained fully in it and a larger central dot. Not really anything like a Sheffield rose. But the mark is incredibly small. About the diameter of a grain of salt. So perhaps it is an extremely simplified Sheffield rose. As it may be that at such scale it was all the detail that could be included?


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