Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

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Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:06 pm

Please identify the maker, approximate date and origin of this pin. Apx. 2" side to side. Thatched roof mill with waterwheel, stream, pine tree, Mt. Fuji (probably) and other landscape. Stylized maker's mark ( I hope) on obverse.

Thank you.

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby davidross » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:56 pm

We have seen a few logo marks like this before, but had no luck at all in tracking them down. The logo mark is the classic "three-peaked Fuji" with what appears to be a fence or possibly a stylized version of the character 井("well," as in a wishing well).

I know of no resource in English that catalogues Japanese makers' marks of small metalwork like this. There has been some discussion in this section of damascene, and FredZ has a site that shows some makers' marks:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10243567 ... banner=pwa

It looks to me like this piece started out as a buckle and was later refashioned into a brooch, so I would assume it dates from some time before WWII and was altered or repaired in the immediate postwar.

You might also try posting a query to a jewelry discussion forum. Please keep us informed if you find out something more.

Regards
DR

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:19 pm

davidross,
I shall do. I checked FredZ's site: no happiness ensued.
You have given me a clue, so I shall continue looking.
Thank you.
Mike Moose

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Sun May 24, 2015 9:30 pm

I somehow missed this post. The Mt Fuji mark is often seen with a signature. We have good evidence that perhaps the signature which translates to Yoshihiko Saku or "made by Yoshihiko" is perhaps the maker of the Mt Fuji marked items.
The items are not damascene work and instead intricate etched and gilded work on brass base. Black lacquer is painted and baked into the recesses to mimic the true damascene known as nunome-zogan.

I am reluctant to positively state that all Mt. Fuji marked items are the work of Yoshihiko until I can find period literature that would corroborate the connection.

MIke your brooch is a lovely one made by a desirable maker. Larger items often command high prices. I hope this helps.

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Mon May 25, 2015 7:59 am

Fred Z,

Thank you very much. I shall see what I can find out about this fellow.

Best to you.

Mike

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Mon May 25, 2015 8:14 am

Another bit of information relating to David Ross' observation of the stylized 井 at the bottom of the Mt Fuji. Fuji combined with this Kanji character may refer to a name Fujii. We had a related post on this forum. viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39124&p=107692&hilit=fujii#p107692
Hope this helps. Please let us know if you find further information on this maker.
Fred

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Mon May 25, 2015 8:31 am

Mike,
With your permission I would like to add the mark on your brooch to my online image site. The etched brass metalwork imitating nunome-zogan work is prolific and it is important to document it.
Fred

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:20 pm

Additional information continues to be found for the maker of items marked with the mark used on this buckle converted to brooch. A cigar case with similar decoration as that found on the brooch and using the same etching process was found in it's original box and the box contains a cloth label marked Fujii Damascene Company and the logo of Mt. Fuji and the well mark designating the Kanji character for I. I suspect that this is the company that made the brooch.
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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:25 pm

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby dognose » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:39 am

Hi Fred,

Many thanks for updating this topic, it's very much appreciated.

Trev.

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:47 pm

Hi FredZ,
I cannot find that I replied to your request (way back in 2015) to add the mark to your online site.
You are more than welcome. Thank you for your insights.
Mike

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby FredZ » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:10 pm

Thanks MIke, I have added it and many others since my last post here. Another excellent site for marks found on Japanese damascene and other cigarette cases is "SmokingSamurai.com"

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:49 pm

Fred,
Thank you for the link. I can see why the fellow got excited. Such craftsmanship.
Mike

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby zhaosu » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:20 am

Made by Fujii Damascene Company (藤井象眼株式会社). The base metal of their produce are mainly bronze/copper instead of iron. Thus, not truly damascene ware.

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Re: Japanese Pin w/mill & Fuji

Postby questingmoose » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:21 am

zhaosu,

Thank you very much.

Mike


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