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German silver 900

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:06 am
by mysterling
Hello
I need please help to identify this mark.
I have put in German silver because look germany, is marked 900 with near sign and the name of silversmith but I have not identify.
I apologize if I have a wrong section but the style looks German although the name does not so much ..
Someone has some more information?
Many many thanks for help
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Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:43 am
by oel
Hi, welcome to the forum. I can not read the name clearly but if it reads M. Tandigan(?) it could be a Filipino name. If so perhaps a silver tray for serving prepared quids. See:
http://www.lasieexotique.com/mag_betel/mag_betel.html

However I stand corrected!


Best,

Peter

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:19 am
by mysterling
Thanks Peter for the answer.
Sorry but I can not really understand that it's written, it seems to me:Tauliyan
But I can not find anything even with these names
thanks

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:25 am
by dragonflywink
Moving this to the 'Middle East' forum because to my eye, from the overall look, the '900' fineness, and the surname ending in 'yan', suspect that this piece may be Armenian...

~Cheryl

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:36 am
by mysterling
Thanks Cherly for council
Can I open another or move the forum administrator?

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:20 am
by AG2012
Hi,
The post has already been moved to Middle East section.
The name does look Armenian with - yan ending (but possibly also - gan). But where would one expect maker`s name in Latin letters in Middle East ?
Sometimes in Israel.
As far as I can see pierced panels are the same, die stamped and assembled. Simplified technique unlike most of German and Dutch pierced baskets of this kind being stamped as a single piece with more elaborate die.
Let`s wait.
Regards

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:42 am
by mysterling
Thanks
About latin letters the deduction is perfect!
We hope someone has some insight.

thanks again

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:04 pm
by MG
I would agree that the decoration does look similar to that found on some German silver but I have also seen a similar type of decoration and pressed work on Turkish pieces (Ottoman and post Ottoman). I think if I had to guess one way or another I would tend to side with the view that it could be an Armenian silversmith of post Ottoman Turkey.

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:26 am
by mysterling
Many Thanks!

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:49 am
by Traintime
Past auctions (c. 2013) indicate name M. Tariliyan associated with .900 centerpiece with removable sleeve. Might start with that name for searches. Good luck.

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:16 am
by mysterling
Many Thanks Traintime

Re: German silver 900

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:10 am
by silverly
An excerpt from a 2013 auction write up: More than 70 lots of choice Indo-Persian silver, from a single-owner collection, are entered in the opening session. Leading the gleaming array is an elegant five-piece, .900-silver tea and coffee service decorated in heavy repousse style. Another top lot is a .900-silver centerpiece with liner signed "M. Tariliyan."

And a link to a 2014 auction result with the identical mark to yours:

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Re: German silver 900

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:57 am
by mysterling
Thanks Silverly,
I saw the two auctions and the one with the same signature.
It seems to have been presented in an "Indo-Persian" silver auction