Cup Middle Eastern?
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Cup Middle Eastern?
Hi super smart people. I have another mystery piece. It's a cup. However, I really only read English, Spanish and German letters. :-) I love the cup. It's design looks like a young man standing at a crossroads directing "traffic". He's stopping a woman carrying jugs so a woman carrying large sacks may pass through. Your insight is appreciated!
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Hi,
It may help someone if you can post some more images of the writing.
Are there no marks on the piece?
Trev.
It may help someone if you can post some more images of the writing.
Are there no marks on the piece?
Trev.
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The first picture is of the only mark.
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The only signature or marking consistent with being a hallmark is the mark between the two ferns along the road in the first picture. Would more pictures of the decoration help?
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My husband took a better picture of the mark, which I assume is Arabic. I would suspect if this were Peruvian I'd see something marked plata and numerals that I'd recognize. :-)
Of course, there are jokes about assumptions, that I dare not repeat on the message board.
Of course, there are jokes about assumptions, that I dare not repeat on the message board.
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I am sure it would help, you need to take a series of pictures with vertical orientation. That way someone could actually see the scene, the way it is now one would have to guess.
The quality of answers depends on the quality of photos.
Maurice
The quality of answers depends on the quality of photos.
Maurice
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I apologize for any orientation problems. Taking pictures with the phone and uploading is "different" for me. :-) It's flipping them sideways, even though I'm taking them the correct way. Here's a series of pictures.
However, the picture of the close up of the signature shared earlier is in the correct orientation.
However, the picture of the close up of the signature shared earlier is in the correct orientation.
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It is not Peruvian. I think it is Indonesian, but I am not sure. I would try to find and Indonesian in your area and hope they can read the mark. Or leave the posting and hope for the best.
Maurice
BTW I am sending you a bill for my sore neck
Maurice
BTW I am sending you a bill for my sore neck
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I'm generally a pain in the neck anyway! Lol!
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I don't know what prize is being offering for a correct answer, but now that we finally have some better photos, I will throw my hat in the ring with Tibet.
I don't know that what follows will be viewable in all browsers, but it is the word for "silver" (dngul) in Tibetan, which I believe is etched on the cup (tho the orientation is still wrong): དངུལ
Maurice, please PM me if you'd like to start a class action suit to recoup chiropractors' bills.
Regards
DR
I don't know that what follows will be viewable in all browsers, but it is the word for "silver" (dngul) in Tibetan, which I believe is etched on the cup (tho the orientation is still wrong): དངུལ
Maurice, please PM me if you'd like to start a class action suit to recoup chiropractors' bills.
Regards
DR
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I have been to Tibet two or three times, but I've never seen palm trees.
I would vote for Southeast Asia.
Best
I would vote for Southeast Asia.
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There is a so-called Tibetan sugar palm (arenga micantha) and the temperate Nyingchi region reportedly boasts banana trees, palm trees, snow lotus, tree ferns, and cypress. As I haven't been there myself, I leave it to others to provide first-hand reports on the local trees.
My neck thanks you, Trev, for giving us an image of the mark in a cropped form, and in the proper orientation as well! It is amazing how seeing things right side up can make all the difference.
Here is "silver" in Nepali:
चादी
I only know English, French, Japanese, certain forms of Chinese, and a smattering of Korean, so will happily defer to those fluent in the 2,000 other languages of Asia, as well as the national dress and flora and fauna of each region, to make some final determination about the origin of the cup. Hopefully our SE Asian and Indonesian contributors will also provide fresh insights.
Cheers
DR
My neck thanks you, Trev, for giving us an image of the mark in a cropped form, and in the proper orientation as well! It is amazing how seeing things right side up can make all the difference.
Here is "silver" in Nepali:
चादी
I only know English, French, Japanese, certain forms of Chinese, and a smattering of Korean, so will happily defer to those fluent in the 2,000 other languages of Asia, as well as the national dress and flora and fauna of each region, to make some final determination about the origin of the cup. Hopefully our SE Asian and Indonesian contributors will also provide fresh insights.
Cheers
DR
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The mark is truly on the cup in the vertical orientation I shared.
My husband keeps thinking Turkish.
I thank you all for trying. :-)
My husband keeps thinking Turkish.
I thank you all for trying. :-)
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Perhaps you and your husband have some definite provenance to share with us that will lead us all to start thinking Turkey as well?
Even a perfunctory glance at the Turkish marks on the World Hallmarks Page would suggest otherwise, but . . . . . .
Even a perfunctory glance at the Turkish marks on the World Hallmarks Page would suggest otherwise, but . . . . . .
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Gee everybody is having such a good time. If you look at the sarong the women are wearing is common in many parts of South East Asia. The hat he is wearing as he dances is from Bali. Can be just a scarf tied around the head to a formal hat.
The script is most likely Hanacaraka or Aksara Indonesian, a precolonial written and spoken language.
Now on with the entertainment.
Warren
The script is most likely Hanacaraka or Aksara Indonesian, a precolonial written and spoken language.
Now on with the entertainment.
Warren
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I keep telling him it's not Turkish. I think he's being mentally influenced by a Melda piece we acquired the same day.
I tell you Central Oregon estates have some really neat things that you wouldn't expect in the middle of "nowhere".
I tell you Central Oregon estates have some really neat things that you wouldn't expect in the middle of "nowhere".