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by Goldstein
Mon May 06, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

Hi - PL is a good base! Over the years some new informations showed up....mistakes were cleared. Here a small selection of what you could need - depending on your interests.There are no limits! https://abload.de/img/bild1hsj0y.jpg In case of doubt always ask the forum - there is a lot of knowledge. ...
by Goldstein
Mon May 06, 2019 3:10 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

Hi - another important indication is the style/form/craftsmanshift of the spoon - typical Russian! Nowhere in Europa you find similar spoons. Fakers can make thanks to computerized milling machines, any number of identical spoons from an existing, authentic pattern spoon. The days when faker made fa...
by Goldstein
Mon May 06, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

Hi - just a reminder: Lev Oleks was in Moscow on duty: 1889-91, 1892-94, 1895-1904, 1915-1917. In Kiew on duty: 1905-1914 The spoon itself is most likely from this period and the engraving would be authentic as already mentioned. You think fakers marked an authentic spoon with correct fake marks? 18...
by Goldstein
Sun May 05, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

Since nearly 1 year this spoon pattern flood the market. Beware!

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by Goldstein
Sun May 05, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

No rule without exception! The larger spoons are sometimes (very rarely) also on the back of the stems marked - often found in "better known" manufacturers. However, caution is required. Your pictured spoon seems to me absolutely real. Since these spoons are made today with state-of-the-ar...
by Goldstein
Sun May 05, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not
Replies: 18
Views: 10511

Re: Russian 84 silver spoons: fake or not

Hi forksnspoons - nice collection - unfortunately 5 total fakes! Authentic spoons of this pattern are marked always on the stem side - not on the stem back!!! Some models in the bowl. https://abload.de/img/fake0161kvr.jpg https://abload.de/img/fake01aygjfz.jpg https://abload.de/img/fake02j1ko7.jpg h...
by Goldstein
Sat May 04, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Niello Spoon
Replies: 16
Views: 9491

Re: Niello Spoon

Here some more objects - from the son as well from the father. Notice the different years and compare with Ivanov´s notices. In order to be able to form a realistic judgment, not only information about the manufacturer but also real pieces is required. Books alone do not always help. Luckily, object...
by Goldstein
Sat May 04, 2019 7:12 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Niello Spoon
Replies: 16
Views: 9491

Re: Niello Spoon

Just use the search function on the upper right side - enter "Tchevarsin" and read/understand what you see! The information is from the year 2016! At least I have no records of him. As a "copy and paste artist" you missed this one. Maybe you will realize one day that the indicati...
by Goldstein
Fri May 03, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Niello Spoon
Replies: 16
Views: 9491

Re: Niello Spoon

A wellknown silversmith - father and son - Michail and Anton.

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by Goldstein
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Qrt.S - It simply stands out: whenever you do not understand the context or are wrong - you become failing or offensive. Try to stay civilized - this is a public forum - that has no interest in your sensitivities or your hurt vanity. Swear words are completely out of place here! Unfortunately, so...
by Goldstein
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:18 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Qrt.S - I failed to understand "(the monogram with crown is particularly suitable)" in the context of the sentence, I thought I remember seeing a post where the member asked if the monogram was original or not, but now I cannot locate that question :: I enjoy the monogram style from Rus...
by Goldstein
Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:14 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Qrt.S - you missed that I am speaking about a "chiffre" - the English translation is "cipher"and gives a different sense. Chiffre is French. This forum is English speaking - so you have to write in English. Everybody in the world who is interested in antiques (independent of h...
by Goldstein
Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi "Besserwisser" - the word "cipher" or "chiffre " is used when a devoured monogram in connection with a crown is used, you have to decipher it. The noun cipher refers to a numeral or number. On the other hand, a cipher can also be a secret character, a sign of a secre...
by Goldstein
Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi p_helm - I myself bought this fork at a market, and it certainly was not expensive, so no gain for a fake market. I do not see myself as a fool as I bought a piece that interested me. I liked it and bought it because I like it, not because of any hallmarks. It was only after did some research and...
by Goldstein
Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Middle East
Topic: Silver from Iran?
Replies: 8
Views: 8677

Re: Silver from Iran?

Hi -

not low content silver but silver 84 Zolotniki = 875/1000! Resulting from the Russian/Persian Allianz.

Regards
Goldstein
by Goldstein
Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:59 am
Forum: German, French, Dutch, Russian, Scandinavian or Other - Single Image
Topic: Silversmith id.Niello snuff box -1824
Replies: 5
Views: 4801

Re: Silversmith id.Niello snuff box -1824

Hi madej -

as usual and often in vain repeated: you should not only show the marks but also the whole object! Please try to comply with the rules of the forum!

Maker: Kolesnikov Dmitrij 1815-1821 fom Moscow, PL # 2415, known for his snuff boxes.

Regards
Goldstein
by Goldstein
Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:23 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Qrt.S - I knew that you would jump on the oppurtunity to present again your outstanding knowledge about Russian silver in general and world marks in particular! Perhaps you have missed that AG 2012 has meant his contribution as a joke / satire - you can bet that he knows that napkin rings have no...
by Goldstein
Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Aguest -

here the different Russian crowns and their meaning. Text is in German - google for a translation in your language - and remember it for the future!

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Regards
Goldstein
by Goldstein
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Morosov fork
Replies: 44
Views: 16392

Re: Morosov fork

Hi Aguest - please read the different contributions and think about what is written! One can only write and explain - but reading and understanding is up to you! In one of my contributions (re fakes) I wrote the following: These spoons exist in their thousands, with simple or intricate, ornate monog...
by Goldstein
Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Rare Petrograd marking
Replies: 4
Views: 3543

Re: Rare Petrograd marking

Hi Juke - here another spoon from him, he sometimes marked his spoons next to his name with SP BURG. He had a large spoon production and his spoons are very common. Mind the spelling! https://abload.de/img/p10909855kkdz.jpg https://abload.de/img/pankratevegor0196kz6.jpg https://abload.de/img/pankrat...

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