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by Jazzman111
Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver
Replies: 8
Views: 1865

Re: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver

Before I saw your most recent post, my research came up with two possibilities, both of which now look like long shots, at best: Payner & Heroy, Albany, NY (ca. 1813) Phelps & Holland, Northampton, MA (ca. 1827) As I continue in my research, I am amazed at how many hundreds of silversmiths, ...
by Jazzman111
Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Silver Care / Techniques
Topic: Advice on best methods to test silver
Replies: 0
Views: 1029

Advice on best methods to test silver

I have been collecting American silver folding fruit knives for the past year of two. As anyone else following that hobby knows, it can be fairly frustrating because American silversmiths, unlike their British counterparts, were under no obligation to mark their knives to indicate whether they were ...
by Jazzman111
Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver
Replies: 8
Views: 1865

Re: Unknown silver smith on spoon silver

It would be helpful if you were able to identify the city, state or region in which your 4GM lived. No 100% guarantee that that is where the spoon was made, but it could narrow things down.
by Jazzman111
Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??
Replies: 2
Views: 2012

Re: Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??

Since making the initial posting, I have recently managed to acquire a copy of McGrew's book, fortunately for what is now a fairly reasonable price. It is certainly an original copy: it has an inscription, date and signature of McGrew on its title page. I have also gotten a better idea of why his bo...
by Jazzman111
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??
Replies: 2
Views: 2012

Why is McGrew's book on coin silver maker's marks so expensive??

Once I started collecting American folding fruit knives, I also started buying books on the subject of American silversmiths and their marks. Examples: Ensko's _American Silversmiths and their Marks_, Green's _Marks of American Silversmiths_, and Karsten's _Silver Folding Fruit Knives. None of these...
by Jazzman111
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Help needed identifying maker of American folding fruit knife
Replies: 6
Views: 2664

Re: Help needed identifying maker of American folding fruit knife

(I replied earlier using my mobile phone but the message seems not to have made it to this site. So I'll ask the indulgence of this site's moderator if a duplicate shows up and has to be deleted.) Thanks very much, traintime, for a most informative and helpful response. The Silver Salon Forum site h...
by Jazzman111
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Help needed identifying maker of American folding fruit knife
Replies: 6
Views: 2664

Help needed identifying maker of American folding fruit knife

I recently acquired an American coin silver folding fruit knife and need help in identifying maker. The good news is it has makers marks. The bad news is I can't find positive proof of the maker in any of the resources I've turned to. http://i66.tinypic.com/2v80gv6.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/xqhkqs....
by Jazzman111
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Looking for info on "The Empress" silver folding fruit knife
Replies: 4
Views: 3902

Re: Looking for info on "The Empress" silver folding fruit knife

Thanks for your interesting information and book reference. I'll have to check it out. Further research at this end suggests that this "medallion" pattern was popular and presumably uncopyrighted, so many variations were produced by different makers. Here, one silversmith calls it the &quo...
by Jazzman111
Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Sterling Manufacturers ~ American after-1860
Topic: Silver Tray Maker's Mark ID needed
Replies: 8
Views: 4404

Re: Silver Tray Maker's Mark ID needed

A late to the party observation. Rather than that logo being three XXXes, it might be three different letters overlaying each other. I looked in two of my source books and compared the logo to maker's marks containing M, W, and A. No dice. But perhaps someone who reads this who has access to other (...
by Jazzman111
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Looking for info on "The Empress" silver folding fruit knife
Replies: 4
Views: 3902

Looking for info on "The Empress" silver folding fruit knife

If you are a collector of American folding fruit knives, you've almost certainly run across examples of this knife in online sales sites or antique stores. The exasperating thing about them is that they all (at least from what I can tell) bear no markings that can help identify when, where and by wh...
by Jazzman111
Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Another Fruit Knife - Eagle/Anchor/Duty Profile (?)
Replies: 3
Views: 2743

Re: Another Fruit Knife - Eagle/Anchor/Duty Profile (?)

Hi, Eli: I'm still very much in the learner stage as a new collector of folding fruit knives, but here are some observations that might be helpful. * I'm going to venture that the knife markings you show indicate that it was probably made by Albert Coles, one of (along with Gorham, et al) the major ...
by Jazzman111
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Sterling Manufacturers ~ American after-1860
Topic: folding knife
Replies: 7
Views: 2537

Re: folding knife

While this post is years old, I thought I'd offer some comments for anyone, like me, who wandered into reading this forum in order to gain or exchange information on American folding fruit knives. Tifft & Whiting formed a partnership in the mid-1800s and were respected silversmiths based in Nort...
by Jazzman111
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Sterling Manufacturers ~ American after-1860
Topic: I think its Gorham....Any help appreciated
Replies: 2
Views: 1609

Re: I think its Gorham....Any help appreciated

The original poster may be long gone, but I thought I might make some comments to any late-comers that, like me, wander into this post. This knife does, indeed, appear to be made by Gorham. Like many American silversmiths, Gorham often stamped what are called faux hallmarks--hallmarks which mimic th...
by Jazzman111
Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?
Replies: 4
Views: 4703

Re: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?

Many, many thanks! Not only for clarifying the meaning of that middle hallmark with the letter "M" (not W!), but also for referring me to what looks like it could be a very useful source for future research. Two questions: 1) since Albert Coles is the silversmith I'm most familiar with, I ...
by Jazzman111
Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?
Replies: 4
Views: 4703

Is this an Albert Coles fruit knife?

In my continuing education in 19th century American fruit knives, I'm learning that Albert Coles were known to use a variety of sometimes misleading hallmarks. This recent acquisition has the tell-tale reversed "duty stamp" of Queen Victoria and an image of an eagle (looks more like a sea ...
by Jazzman111
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Sheffield Hallmarks
Topic: Help needed to identify maker of silver folding fruit knife
Replies: 2
Views: 1568

Re: Help needed to identify maker of silver folding fruit knife

Thanks for your reply. I'm afraid I don't have a camera that takes extreme close up macros very well, but perhaps the one below is a little clearer. As it turns out, I believe I may have found the maker: Lockwood Brothers, 15 Arundel Street, Sheffield, registered in 1855. https://www.silvermakersmar...
by Jazzman111
Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Sheffield Hallmarks
Topic: Help needed to identify maker of silver folding fruit knife
Replies: 2
Views: 1568

Help needed to identify maker of silver folding fruit knife

I'm having trouble finding the maker of this silver fruit knife assayed in Sheffield in 1893. The maker's initials appear to be "LG" or possibly "LB," but I can find nowhere in the online directories a likeness. I would also think that the four underscores should be a help in ide...
by Jazzman111
Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Gorham knife: coin or sterling?
Replies: 3
Views: 3061

Re: Gorham knife: coin or sterling?

Thanks for your helpful replies. As someone still in the beginner stage of folding fruit knife collecting, I'm getting the impression that American knives made prior to 1864 or so, and not stamped explicitly "Sterling," (or that are evidently silverplated), can probably be assumed to be 90...
by Jazzman111
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Gorham knife: coin or sterling?
Replies: 3
Views: 3061

Gorham knife: coin or sterling?

Recently, I picked up a silver fruit knife that, thanks to people on the website who have helped educate me on them, I've been able to identify as made by Gorham in the 1855-1860 period. Unlike the last one I acquired, "Sterling" does not appear on the tang. Does this mean the knife was pr...
by Jazzman111
Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:33 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: i’ve bucket think it’s sheffield?
Replies: 8
Views: 2770

Re: i’ve bucket think it’s sheffield?

I started collecting silver folding fruit knives, both British and American, about a year ago. I quickly learned that, especially in the first half of the nineteenth century, it was quite routine for American silversmiths to use British hallmarks on their wares, including the lion rampant or a Queen...

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