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- Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:12 pm
- Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
- Topic: Lions, crown and masks frame with claw feet, Irish?
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- Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:15 pm
- Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
- Topic: Lions, crown and masks frame with claw feet, Irish?
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Lions, crown and masks frame with claw feet, Irish?
This came with some Irish silver, and until I cleaned it up I was thinking this was Irish silver on copper, but now I'm not so sure. It's nicely detailed, and thin and light. It looks it was intended for a mirror or a picture, it has moveable tabs on the back. Any thoughts about those marks? Thanks ...
- Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:09 am
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
I dislike people who don't update and give closure to their threads :) The dagger blade is 14K gold. The complete dagger was made in India for VC&A and sold by Van Cleef & Arpels in Paris in the early 1900's. It looks like the forum rules prohibit me from saying what it's worth or where it n...
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:55 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
I lit the blade differently, and now I'm wondering if it's an MO rather MD mark. I don't find either (of course!)
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:38 am
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
It was acid tested in 3 places and filed too. Ouch! Acid testing is unreliable and destructive. To get a correct result, such an item would have to be deep filed and be damaged forever, imagine what such an item would like after it had passed thorough the hands of dozen or so collectors/dealers who...
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:13 am
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
Oh, that link to the ET mark is interesting, thank you. That is the exact same font as is on the dagger, they are quite distinctively shaped letters.
I will have it electronically tested. It was acid tested in 3 places and filed too.
I will have it electronically tested. It was acid tested in 3 places and filed too.
- Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:45 am
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
I had the exact same question, "but you're just testing the surface". The guy who tested it knows what he's doing, he's been doing this for ~40 years, he said it's solid gold "I can just tell, it behaves differently". He's a prominent auctioneer who sells a lot of jewelry. (admin...
- Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:55 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
Here are some better pictures:
- Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:26 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
- Replies: 14
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
An auctioneer friend acid tested it for me. He knows his jewelry, he's pretty sure it's solid gold. He's not so sure about it being Van Cleef, and I was agreeing with him, until I found out that Van Cleef (and Cartier) reworked Indian jewelry... I'll upload the clearest pictures I can get, the origi...
- Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:54 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
I have had it tested, the blade tests as solid gold.
- Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:11 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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Re: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
I have been doing some further research on this dagger. The ampersand in the VC&A mark is unusual and the same as Van Cleef used on other pieces. I had always thought VCA used exclusively 18K gold, but I've since seen some 14K VCA pieces where strength would be a concern (like a blade). I've als...
- Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:01 pm
- Forum: Gold Marks - Worldwide
- Topic: 14K gold blade Mughal dagger
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14K gold blade Mughal dagger
Hello, I recently bought this Muhal style dagger. The blade is marked 14K and tests good for gold, and it has some additional marks that look like "VC&A" and "MD" and "ET". I'm pretty sure it's not Van Cleef, I was assuming that it was colonial era Asian Indian, but...