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by Argentum2
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: What was this ladle used for?
Replies: 9
Views: 952

Re: What was this ladle used for?

Of course they have been used.

In Germany and central Europe they come with much shorter handles and are usually placed inside of the chalice.

Ampolla translates into English as cruet and into French as burette
by Argentum2
Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:03 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: What was this ladle used for?
Replies: 9
Views: 952

Re: What was this ladle used for?

The scruple spoon is still in use and current among the more liturgically educated clergy. The prayer used at the commingling is taken from the sermon on the Incarnation preached on Christmas Day 440 by Pope St Leo the Great (400-460) and runs thus: Deus, + qui humanae substantiae dignitatem et mira...
by Argentum2
Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:06 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Spoon
Replies: 5
Views: 2820

Re: Spoon

Here is an article from the Collector's Weekly which would suggest that the rounded ends would date the spoon to post 1820 in examples made in Vermont which produced practically nothing other than flat ware

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/article ... at-a-time/
by Argentum2
Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: The Earliest Known Cork Maker's Mark?
Replies: 14
Views: 4750

Re: The Earliest Known Cork Maker's Mark?

Have you checked Patricia Kane's Colonial Massachusetts Silversmiths and Jewelers: A Biographical Dictionary Based on the Notes of Francis Hill Bigelow and John Marshall Phillips?
by Argentum2
Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:31 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Spoon
Replies: 5
Views: 2820

Re: Spoon

If not mistaken, this may be an example of a coffin spoon. They were usually given to pall bearers. The practice died out in England by the beginning of the 18th. century but continued in the North American colonies well into the late 19th. century. On style, this would appear to be early 19th. cent...
by Argentum2
Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:52 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Identifying STERLING marks
Replies: 55
Views: 17363

Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Hi Argentum, Such a list would be an interesting project, I'm not aware of such a resource existing. I suppose one spanner in the works may be a possible shared use of a punch, especially amongst the less prolific smiths. It would also be great to know how many die-cutters were working in the provi...
by Argentum2
Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:51 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Identifying STERLING marks
Replies: 55
Views: 17363

Re: Identifying STERLING marks

Another mark used by Gibson, this one taken from a spoon c. 1795

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by Argentum2
Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:23 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Identifying STERLING marks
Replies: 55
Views: 17363

Re: Identifying STERLING marks

The following mark was used by James Warner about 1790 on a dessert spoon:

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by Argentum2
Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:43 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Marks by Egans of Cork on Unassayed Wares
Replies: 1
Views: 1067

Marks by Egans of Cork on Unassayed Wares

Recently, I have noticed several items (all ecclesiastical) made by William Egan and Sons of Cork marked with what appears to be a neo-provincial maker's mark unaccompanied by the usual marks issued by the assay office. Has anyone else noted similar pieces. These marks are on a cruet stand. http://i...
by Argentum2
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:37 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Monogram identification
Replies: 8
Views: 2059

Re: Monogram identification

possibly a "Y" in alt Fraktur http://vau-ef-be.beepworld.de/files/altfrakturmoderne.jpg but many other examples of alt and moderne Fraktur here: https://www.google.ie/search?q=frakturschrift&sa=X&rlz=1C1CHMO_en-GBIE542IE543&es_sm=122&biw=1517&bih=714&tbm=isch&tb...
by Argentum2
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Monogram identification
Replies: 8
Views: 2059

Re: Monogram identification

That may be so but I am inclined to think that the script is Latin and possibly in "Frackschrift", the Gothic type alphabet in common use throughout Germany until WWII.
by Argentum2
Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:15 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Monogram identification
Replies: 8
Views: 2059

Re: Monogram identification

The script is, I think, Latin: AJ or AT
by Argentum2
Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:14 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Monogram identification
Replies: 8
Views: 2059

Re: Monogram identification

And here is the history of the firm which was founded in 1843

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berndorfe ... arenfabrik
by Argentum2
Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:02 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Monogram identification
Replies: 8
Views: 2059

Re: Monogram identification

This link should identify the maker and provide some clues about the marks.

http://www.ascasonline.org/articoloDICEM104.html
by Argentum2
Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:27 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Initials on Cork Silver
Replies: 14
Views: 4310

Re: Initials on Cork Silver

Here we have an interesting set of engraved initials. It is to be found on what appears to have been an extensive silver service produced by John Nicholson of Cork about 1790. At least four table spoons and two serving spoons (13'' long) are known to have survived from it. The serving spoons were in...
by Argentum2
Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:03 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish provincial maker?
Replies: 21
Views: 8413

Re: Irish provincial maker?

doc wrote:The Sisters of Loreto operated (and continue to operate) a number of schools and convents in Ireland, including a number in and around Dublin, so I do not think that the engraving is of much assistance in narrowing down the attribution.



I disagree with this and take a contrary position.
by Argentum2
Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:01 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish provincial maker?
Replies: 21
Views: 8413

Re: Irish provincial maker?

Loretto Gorey has nothing to do with Loretto Fermoy. They were completely independent houses. In the case of Loretto Fermoy, it did have a dependent house in Clonmel. Brief history here: http://loretofermoy.ie/about/history/ I viewed the silver at the auction in Fermoy. Much of it appears to have co...
by Argentum2
Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:35 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Initials on Cork Silver
Replies: 14
Views: 4310

Re: Initials on Cork Silver

You've got my interest now! That small "v" shape to the left of the C and below the super M did not seem right. Looking at old pen lettering guides I have come the the conclusion that the initialing here is H before E with super M intertwined, not JCE. This would be consistent with engrav...
by Argentum2
Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:12 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Initials on Cork Silver
Replies: 14
Views: 4310

Re: Initials on Cork Silver

As an example of a Cork piece of silver with a crest and initials, a soup ladle by Carden Terry, from about 1780, illustrates an example of a fairly positive identification. The crest -which apparently is pseudo and excluded from Burke's General Armory - would appear to be that of the Putland family...
by Argentum2
Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:30 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Initials on Cork Silver
Replies: 14
Views: 4310

Re: Initials on Cork Silver

nobilityhouse wrote:I see a superscript M above the C before the E. Good luck with this.


You are perfectly correct. Many thanks for that.

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